RE: [Pythoncard-users] an IDLE clone (PythonCard IDE, wxIDLE...)

> From: Patrick K. O'Brien
>
> If you examine an object in the PyCrust namespace tree you will
> see that it
> is easy to get the source code for a particular method of an object. So it
> wouldn't be impossible to do a VB-like edit-the-code-behind-the-object IDE
> environment. Or at least position the user on the relevant
> starting point in
> the code file. (Which Kevin's FindFiles app already does as well.)

The problem in a Python editor is that because there is no type information
until a variable has been evaluated it is difficult to supply documentation,
a list of methods or attributes.

From http://diveintopython.org/odbchelper_funcdef.html
"So Python is both dynamically typed (because it doesn't use explicit
datatype declarations) and strongly typed (because once a variable has a
datatype, it actually matters)."

The command completion I can get from a VB or Java or C++ editor is one of
the things I miss most about Python. In some cases the editor could work
like the shell (PyCrust) where you have a lot of clues about the objects
being used and provide autocompletion for variables. PythonWin does this for
a script once it has been executed, but it is haphazard and if you change
the type of a variable it gets confused. This probably falls under the hard
category until Python provides optional type info for variables.

Ideas or corrections are welcome.

ka

> > -----Original Message-----
> > Kevin Altis wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > We already have the Shell component, we just continue to use PyCrust.
> >
> >
> > In the "six blind men describe the beast" thread, Neil Hodgson said:
> >    "Writing a small editor isn't all that hard. I don't expect
> the initial
> > version of an editor for PythonCard that handled the vast
> > majority of needed
> > features would take long at all. You can get tied up in details
> > though. The
> > biggest question to me would be how do you determine which files
> > are part of
> > a PythonCard project and where within those files are the event
> > handlers? Do
> > you do VB style file segmentation or just present the whole file to the
> > user?"
> >
> > ka
>
>
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